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		<title>By: 168 Frugal Tips to Make Your Dollar Stretch + More &#187; TipNut.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>168 Frugal Tips to Make Your Dollar Stretch + More &#187; TipNut.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Meangoose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meangoose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 02:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Undertipping, just because you *can*, is really rude.  Can&#039;t afford to tip - you can&#039;t afford to eat out.  I&#039;ve been a server, and it was a far harder and less lucrative job than I have now.

The 20 CVS cards thing really annoys me - I don&#039;t know why the store allows that.

I think of cheap as spending as little as possible, including doing things that are immoral but legal (or at least unlikely to be prosecuted).  Cheap is stealing toilet paper from public facilities, not tipping service staff because no one can force you to do so, violating sale limits, using coupons in a way that&#039;s not in accordance with the terms on the coupon, etc.

Frugal is being wise with your money, but not in such a way as would warrant a visit by the ghosts of Christmas Past, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Undertipping, just because you *can*, is really rude.  Can&#8217;t afford to tip &#8211; you can&#8217;t afford to eat out.  I&#8217;ve been a server, and it was a far harder and less lucrative job than I have now.</p>
<p>The 20 CVS cards thing really annoys me &#8211; I don&#8217;t know why the store allows that.</p>
<p>I think of cheap as spending as little as possible, including doing things that are immoral but legal (or at least unlikely to be prosecuted).  Cheap is stealing toilet paper from public facilities, not tipping service staff because no one can force you to do so, violating sale limits, using coupons in a way that&#8217;s not in accordance with the terms on the coupon, etc.</p>
<p>Frugal is being wise with your money, but not in such a way as would warrant a visit by the ghosts of Christmas Past, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: AllisonWonder</title>
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		<dc:creator>AllisonWonder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 10:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never worked as a server, but I always tip well. I hate that those poor people have to rely on the decency of other people to make a living. I really think restaurants should charge more for food and pay the staff decent wages, but until that happens, I&#039;ll be keeping 15-20% my bare minimum for tipping at restaurants.

Does anyone know what the standard tip is at a buffet? The server brings the drinks and the bill... I don&#039;t know what they get paid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never worked as a server, but I always tip well. I hate that those poor people have to rely on the decency of other people to make a living. I really think restaurants should charge more for food and pay the staff decent wages, but until that happens, I&#8217;ll be keeping 15-20% my bare minimum for tipping at restaurants.</p>
<p>Does anyone know what the standard tip is at a buffet? The server brings the drinks and the bill&#8230; I don&#8217;t know what they get paid.</p>
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		<title>By: tammy</title>
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		<dc:creator>tammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 20:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheap people have 18 different CVS cards. Seriously? Who needs 25 tubes of free toothpaste every month?!

Frugal people learn how to use the one they have wisely! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheap people have 18 different CVS cards. Seriously? Who needs 25 tubes of free toothpaste every month?!</p>
<p>Frugal people learn how to use the one they have wisely! <img src='http://www.home-ec101.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Pam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 19:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ivy, thank you for bringing this up. The &quot;bad tipping&quot; thing drives me absolutely nuts! (I&#039;m not in food service, but I have been in the past, so I know how hard they work, and how little they make, and how the IRS treats them at the end of the year.)

I&#039;m convinced that if restaurant patrons worked as a server for even a week they&#039;d change their tipping ways. I rarely tip less than 20% anymore, and I always tip on the full amount the bill would have been without the coupon. I mean, the difference between 15% and 20% is usually a couple of bucks, which isn&#039;t going to break me, but could really make a difference to the server. (As a bonus, it&#039;s easier to calculate in my head -- I just calculate 10%, double it, then round up to the next full dollar.)

ScrappyQuilter brought up a huge issue for me as a Christian -- when fellow Christians fail to recognize that their poor tipping really damages their testimony. I figure my tip speaks far louder than the fact that I bow my head before the meal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ivy, thank you for bringing this up. The &#8220;bad tipping&#8221; thing drives me absolutely nuts! (I&#8217;m not in food service, but I have been in the past, so I know how hard they work, and how little they make, and how the IRS treats them at the end of the year.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m convinced that if restaurant patrons worked as a server for even a week they&#8217;d change their tipping ways. I rarely tip less than 20% anymore, and I always tip on the full amount the bill would have been without the coupon. I mean, the difference between 15% and 20% is usually a couple of bucks, which isn&#8217;t going to break me, but could really make a difference to the server. (As a bonus, it&#8217;s easier to calculate in my head &#8212; I just calculate 10%, double it, then round up to the next full dollar.)</p>
<p>ScrappyQuilter brought up a huge issue for me as a Christian &#8212; when fellow Christians fail to recognize that their poor tipping really damages their testimony. I figure my tip speaks far louder than the fact that I bow my head before the meal.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa- Domestic Accident</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa- Domestic Accident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like to think of frugal as smart.  Why pay more than I have to?  I&#039;m proud to have champagne taste on a beer budget!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like to think of frugal as smart.  Why pay more than I have to?  I&#8217;m proud to have champagne taste on a beer budget!</p>
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		<title>By: Eyebee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eyebee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 03:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like to think of myself as frugal. I won&#039;t be taken in by slick advertising, and I&#039;m generally always one to compare brand to generic. I&#039;ll always go for a generic, or store&#039;s own brand if it&#039;s as good (which is often is).

As for tipping I do try to aim for between 15-20%, although there has (in I guess the last ten years) been two occasions when the service was so darn bad, I didn&#039;t leave a tip at all.

We don&#039;t ever have food delivered so that one doesn&#039;t arise.

OK, is this cheap? I&#039;ll go to local bookstore, get a coffee, look at some books (very carefully, mind) and then more often than not come home and buy what I decided I like on Amazon as their prices are usually way under the bookstore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like to think of myself as frugal. I won&#8217;t be taken in by slick advertising, and I&#8217;m generally always one to compare brand to generic. I&#8217;ll always go for a generic, or store&#8217;s own brand if it&#8217;s as good (which is often is).</p>
<p>As for tipping I do try to aim for between 15-20%, although there has (in I guess the last ten years) been two occasions when the service was so darn bad, I didn&#8217;t leave a tip at all.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t ever have food delivered so that one doesn&#8217;t arise.</p>
<p>OK, is this cheap? I&#8217;ll go to local bookstore, get a coffee, look at some books (very carefully, mind) and then more often than not come home and buy what I decided I like on Amazon as their prices are usually way under the bookstore.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 22:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI: My Albertson&#039;s and Von&#039;s both carry bottles of Taco Bell sauce.  But Albertson&#039;s only has mild and Von&#039;s only has hot.  I don&#039;t know why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI: My Albertson&#8217;s and Von&#8217;s both carry bottles of Taco Bell sauce.  But Albertson&#8217;s only has mild and Von&#8217;s only has hot.  I don&#8217;t know why.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer @Chronicles of a Night Owl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer @Chronicles of a Night Owl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 18:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with what you have said. As far as the condiment packages - I do the same - save any extras. The one exception to this rule for me is Taco Bell Fire Sauce. You can&#039;t buy it anywhere, so we always ask for extra (in the drive-through) and they are usually pretty generous. And we use it on home-cooked Mexicn. If I could buy it in the store, I wouldn&#039;t ask for extra. I don&#039;t really think that is being cheap.

For what minnemom said - I agree. If it says &quot;one per family&quot; I will honor that and won&#039;t try to &quot;cheat the system&quot;. However, if it says one per purchase or transaction, that is different, and I will make multiple transactions to get a good deal. And the stores know you do that too, because the same cashier will ring up 3 transactions in a row for you (without going to the car and coming back in.) If it is specific that you are supposed to only &#039;get the deal&#039; one time though, I think that definitely becomes a moral thing though if you try to do it again, and I won&#039;t cross that line. 

Good points here. I&#039;m glad to see that I fall in the frugal category but not the just plain cheap one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with what you have said. As far as the condiment packages &#8211; I do the same &#8211; save any extras. The one exception to this rule for me is Taco Bell Fire Sauce. You can&#8217;t buy it anywhere, so we always ask for extra (in the drive-through) and they are usually pretty generous. And we use it on home-cooked Mexicn. If I could buy it in the store, I wouldn&#8217;t ask for extra. I don&#8217;t really think that is being cheap.</p>
<p>For what minnemom said &#8211; I agree. If it says &#8220;one per family&#8221; I will honor that and won&#8217;t try to &#8220;cheat the system&#8221;. However, if it says one per purchase or transaction, that is different, and I will make multiple transactions to get a good deal. And the stores know you do that too, because the same cashier will ring up 3 transactions in a row for you (without going to the car and coming back in.) If it is specific that you are supposed to only &#8216;get the deal&#8217; one time though, I think that definitely becomes a moral thing though if you try to do it again, and I won&#8217;t cross that line. </p>
<p>Good points here. I&#8217;m glad to see that I fall in the frugal category but not the just plain cheap one!</p>
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		<title>By: ScrappyQuilter</title>
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		<dc:creator>ScrappyQuilter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 15:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheap--how about someone who constantly requests tons of free samples from their Avon sales person with no intention of ever buying a thing?   

I&#039;m with you on the tipping.  Once I went to a luncheon at Olive Garden with my church Ladies Group.  We all ordered the soup-salad-breadsticks, but right after we ordered, our server came back with 2 bowls of salad and said that was the last they had because one of their fridges had died and nothing in it was safe to serve--however, because of the inconvenience, our meals were free.  We got those 2 bowls of salad plus all the soup and breadsticks we wanted--nobody left hungry, but half the ladies didn&#039;t leave tips!  I was so embarassed I left the poor guy far more than I would have otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheap&#8211;how about someone who constantly requests tons of free samples from their Avon sales person with no intention of ever buying a thing?   </p>
<p>I&#8217;m with you on the tipping.  Once I went to a luncheon at Olive Garden with my church Ladies Group.  We all ordered the soup-salad-breadsticks, but right after we ordered, our server came back with 2 bowls of salad and said that was the last they had because one of their fridges had died and nothing in it was safe to serve&#8211;however, because of the inconvenience, our meals were free.  We got those 2 bowls of salad plus all the soup and breadsticks we wanted&#8211;nobody left hungry, but half the ladies didn&#8217;t leave tips!  I was so embarassed I left the poor guy far more than I would have otherwise.</p>
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