<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:rawvoice="http://www.rawvoice.com/rawvoiceRssModule/" > <channel><title>Comments on: CFL vs. Incandescent: Who&#8217;s the winner?</title> <atom:link href="http://www.home-ec101.com/cfl-vs-incanescent-whos-the-winner/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.home-ec101.com/cfl-vs-incanescent-whos-the-winner/</link> <description>Skills for everyday living.</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 23:44:40 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: TBo</title><link>http://www.home-ec101.com/cfl-vs-incanescent-whos-the-winner/comment-page-1/#comment-59994</link> <dc:creator>TBo</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2010 03:11:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.home-ec101.com/?p=1115#comment-59994</guid> <description>You can recycle an old CFL at any Home Depot Store! They have a recycle stations near the service desk, if you don&#039;t see it, ask at the desk! </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can recycle an old CFL at any Home Depot Store! They have a recycle stations near the service desk, if you don&#039;t see it, ask at the desk!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mark</title><link>http://www.home-ec101.com/cfl-vs-incanescent-whos-the-winner/comment-page-1/#comment-56522</link> <dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 18:30:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.home-ec101.com/?p=1115#comment-56522</guid> <description>Marie: The emissions of mercury from a coal burning power plant far exceed the mercury in the one CFL bulb.  The savings between the incandescent to the CFL (even with the mercury) is still worth it.  If you are still uncomfortable go with the LED lights.  They are mercury free and EVEN MORE efficient than the CFLs! </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marie: The emissions of mercury from a coal burning power plant far exceed the mercury in the one CFL bulb.  The savings between the incandescent to the CFL (even with the mercury) is still worth it.  If you are still uncomfortable go with the LED lights.  They are mercury free and EVEN MORE efficient than the CFLs!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: valerio vinaccia</title><link>http://www.home-ec101.com/cfl-vs-incanescent-whos-the-winner/comment-page-1/#comment-49092</link> <dc:creator>valerio vinaccia</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:42:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.home-ec101.com/?p=1115#comment-49092</guid> <description>LED lamps are the right choice for those who are looking for energy savings, and hopes in a more “green” world, led lamps are not longer cold and technology objects , but they are beginning to be beautiful objects suitable to decorate your homes. We are working on this project for a couple of years, for example, we are very satisfied with the results of the desk lamp “Asymmetric” completely built in glazed ceramic, it use as light source 8W LED. (like 70w traditional bulbs). At this link the complete project : http://lampade-led.blogspot.com/</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LED lamps are the right choice for those who are looking for energy savings, and hopes in a more “green” world, led lamps are not longer cold and technology objects , but they are beginning to be beautiful objects suitable to decorate your homes. We are working on this project for a couple of years, for example, we are very satisfied with the results of the desk lamp “Asymmetric” completely built in glazed ceramic, it use as light source 8W LED. (like 70w traditional bulbs).<br /> At this link the complete project :<br /> <a href="http://lampade-led.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://lampade-led.blogspot.com/</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Steve Bergman</title><link>http://www.home-ec101.com/cfl-vs-incanescent-whos-the-winner/comment-page-1/#comment-16650</link> <dc:creator>Steve Bergman</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:35:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.home-ec101.com/?p=1115#comment-16650</guid> <description>As an addendum, I have found some more relevant info.  Relative to a 3 hr cycle time, a 15 minute or 5 minute cycle time reduces the life by about 70% and 85% respectively.  Based upon this new information, my revised estimate for the break even cycle time would be about 51 seconds.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an addendum, I have found some more relevant info.  Relative to a 3 hr cycle time, a 15 minute or 5 minute cycle time reduces the life by about 70% and 85% respectively.  Based upon this new information, my revised estimate for the break even cycle time would be about 51 seconds.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Steve Bergman</title><link>http://www.home-ec101.com/cfl-vs-incanescent-whos-the-winner/comment-page-1/#comment-16649</link> <dc:creator>Steve Bergman</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:09:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.home-ec101.com/?p=1115#comment-16649</guid> <description>Silver&#039;s claim regarding 15 minute cycle times is demonstrably incorrect.  I wish people would stop spreading this kind of disinformation.Let&#039;s take an example.  A 23 watt cfl replaces a 100watt incandescent and costs $1.90 (US) at Walmart. (4 bulb pack for $7.58)  The bulb is rated at 10,000 hours with a 3 hour cycle time.  That means it has at least 10000/3 starts.  (In reality, if you cycle it more frequently you would get more starts than that.  But we can take 3333 as a worst possible case.)This means that each start costs you a maximum of 0.057 cents, or about an 18th of a penny.  At 10 cents per kwh, 0.057 cents represents 0.0057 kwh or 5.7 watt hours.  While on, the bulb is using 77 watts less than a 100 watt incandescent, and at the 77 watt savings would make that up in 4.4 minutes.  Keep in mind that 3333 starts was a worst case scenario.  It would not surprise me if the actual break even point were more like 2 minutes.And, of course, at a 3 hour cycle time, it would take 13.3 standard GE 100 watt 750 hours bulbs, which would cost $3.43 at Walmart, or almost double what the cfl costs.  So you could actually afford to cut the life of the cfl in half and still come out ahead of the incandescent on bulb costs alone, even without considering the energy savings.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silver&#8217;s claim regarding 15 minute cycle times is demonstrably incorrect.  I wish people would stop spreading this kind of disinformation.</p><p>Let&#8217;s take an example.  A 23 watt cfl replaces a 100watt incandescent and costs $1.90 (US) at Walmart. (4 bulb pack for $7.58)  The bulb is rated at 10,000 hours with a 3 hour cycle time.  That means it has at least 10000/3 starts.  (In reality, if you cycle it more frequently you would get more starts than that.  But we can take 3333 as a worst possible case.)</p><p>This means that each start costs you a maximum of 0.057 cents, or about an 18th of a penny.  At 10 cents per kwh, 0.057 cents represents 0.0057 kwh or 5.7 watt hours.  While on, the bulb is using 77 watts less than a 100 watt incandescent, and at the 77 watt savings would make that up in 4.4 minutes.  Keep in mind that 3333 starts was a worst case scenario.  It would not surprise me if the actual break even point were more like 2 minutes.</p><p>And, of course, at a 3 hour cycle time, it would take 13.3 standard GE 100 watt 750 hours bulbs, which would cost $3.43 at Walmart, or almost double what the cfl costs.  So you could actually afford to cut the life of the cfl in half and still come out ahead of the incandescent on bulb costs alone, even without considering the energy savings.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: JayMonster</title><link>http://www.home-ec101.com/cfl-vs-incanescent-whos-the-winner/comment-page-1/#comment-15506</link> <dc:creator>JayMonster</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 17:30:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.home-ec101.com/?p=1115#comment-15506</guid> <description>Tink,Thanks for the info, it pretty much proves what I was saying in that most of silver&#039;s &quot;warnings&quot; about CFLs were dated.I have also seen people complain about CFLs causing headaches.  But this also is dated as the newer bulbs no longer have the flicker that the old bulbs have (probably back when they caused overheating).</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tink,</p><p>Thanks for the info, it pretty much proves what I was saying in that most of silver&#8217;s &#8220;warnings&#8221; about CFLs were dated.</p><p>I have also seen people complain about CFLs causing headaches.  But this also is dated as the newer bulbs no longer have the flicker that the old bulbs have (probably back when they caused overheating).</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: tink</title><link>http://www.home-ec101.com/cfl-vs-incanescent-whos-the-winner/comment-page-1/#comment-15465</link> <dc:creator>tink</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 23:57:13 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.home-ec101.com/?p=1115#comment-15465</guid> <description>Jay,Older generation CFL&#039;s used to overheat in enclosed fixtures.In later versions, that&#039;s rarely an issue - just read the back of the packages.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay,</p><p>Older generation CFL&#8217;s used to overheat in enclosed fixtures.</p><p>In later versions, that&#8217;s rarely an issue &#8211; just read the back of the packages.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: tink</title><link>http://www.home-ec101.com/cfl-vs-incanescent-whos-the-winner/comment-page-1/#comment-15464</link> <dc:creator>tink</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 23:47:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.home-ec101.com/?p=1115#comment-15464</guid> <description>Bramble,If your cfl&#039;s are burning out in a couple of months, I strongly suggest having your electrician check out the wiring in your home. It sounds like there&#039;s some kind of short or surge problem in the wiring -- if so, it could be a fire hazard.Our home is 107 years old - We have yet to have a cfl burn out.Since lighting is &quot;usually&quot; about 20% of your electric bill, they can give you a substantial savings.If you want to keep track of your energy savings, cost savings etc. check out http://onebillionbulbs.com/ they have user reviews and a bunch of other stuff as well.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bramble,</p><p>If your cfl&#8217;s are burning out in a couple of months, I strongly suggest having your electrician check out the wiring in your home. It sounds like there&#8217;s some kind of short or surge problem in the wiring &#8212; if so, it could be a fire hazard.</p><p>Our home is 107 years old &#8211; We have yet to have a cfl burn out.</p><p>Since lighting is &#8220;usually&#8221; about 20% of your electric bill, they can give you a substantial savings.</p><p>If you want to keep track of your energy savings, cost savings etc. check out <a href="http://onebillionbulbs.com/" rel="nofollow">http://onebillionbulbs.com/</a><br /> they have user reviews and a bunch of other stuff as well.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: JayMonster</title><link>http://www.home-ec101.com/cfl-vs-incanescent-whos-the-winner/comment-page-1/#comment-15439</link> <dc:creator>JayMonster</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 21:16:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.home-ec101.com/?p=1115#comment-15439</guid> <description>There are several of silver&#039;s suggestions, that look a bit dated.Recessed lighting fixtures have used Flurescent lights for years (though not CFL&#039;s obviously), so I am at a loss as to why this may be.Some other warnings like not on a timer, or only when lit for 15 minutes or more applied to older generation CFLs, but I don&#039;t believe thanks to the improved ballasts that this is the case any longer (obviously that probably varies from manufacturer to manufacturer).To answer your question Heather, I believe that there is much hope going forward that by 2012, that Light Emitting Diode (LED) light fixtures will be in place at an affordable level to solve many of the current issues with CFLs.  The lights are already there, but they are currently to expensive (outside of Xmas lights) for widespread use.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are several of silver&#8217;s suggestions, that look a bit dated.</p><p>Recessed lighting fixtures have used Flurescent lights for years (though not CFL&#8217;s obviously), so I am at a loss as to why this may be.</p><p>Some other warnings like not on a timer, or only when lit for 15 minutes or more applied to older generation CFLs, but I don&#8217;t believe thanks to the improved ballasts that this is the case any longer (obviously that probably varies from manufacturer to manufacturer).</p><p>To answer your question Heather, I believe that there is much hope going forward that by 2012, that Light Emitting Diode (LED) light fixtures will be in place at an affordable level to solve many of the current issues with CFLs.  The lights are already there, but they are currently to expensive (outside of Xmas lights) for widespread use.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Heather</title><link>http://www.home-ec101.com/cfl-vs-incanescent-whos-the-winner/comment-page-1/#comment-15434</link> <dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:47:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.home-ec101.com/?p=1115#comment-15434</guid> <description>Silver, those are excellent tips, what will happen though if the incandescent bans go through since they are not compatible with all situations? Are lawmakers just assuming companies will have figured out solutions by 2012?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silver, those are excellent tips, what will happen though if the incandescent bans go through since they are not compatible with all situations?<br /> Are lawmakers just assuming companies will have figured out solutions by 2012?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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